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Post subject: Fumble?
 Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 02:48 AM
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I would just like too ask what everyone out there uses for the fumble rule.
I know if you follow the strict ruling from the lrb then I think  you can fumble on as high as a 4, possibly 5 not sure, but from speaking too everyone in our league we house ruled so you only fumble on a 1.
What is everyones fellings on this? |
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Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 03:20 AM
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| In my league you fumble if your dice roll is modified to a 1 by tackle zones or range. |
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Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 05:11 AM
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We just changed. This is because you devalue passing skills (accurate & strong arm) by not having increased risk of fumbles.
Also it increases the risk of tossing the ball downfield in the hope of better field position. |
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Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 07:22 AM
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| We actually changed with the release of the most recent LRB rules when they clarified the issue. It actually has much better balance, and seems to help out the lower movement teams a bit more. |
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Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 08:25 AM
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We used to play with Fumbles on 1 only, but we're changing to LRB ruling for our third season.
But when you play CD's, the passing game is not your main concern ! 
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Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 08:45 AM
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Not only does fumble on 1 only devalue passing skills, but it also creates a vast number of cheesy/beardy Punting plays that really make the game no fun in my opinion.
Leave Punting plays where they belong with Hail Mary Pass. The Fumble rules in the LRB are fine.
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Post subject: Re: Fumble?
Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 08:51 AM
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Valen-S wrote: I would just like too ask what everyone out there uses for the fumble rule.
I know if you follow the strict ruling from the lrb then I think you can fumble on as high as a 4, possibly 5 not sure, but from speaking too everyone in our league we house ruled so you only fumble on a 1.
What is everyones fellings on this?
Math for the record.
A Long Pass fumbles on 1-2
A Long Bomb pass fumbles on a 1-3
To fumble on a 4, you'd need a Long Bomb pass and one of the following: one TZ, Very Sunny, or a Foul Appearance opponent in range.
To fumble on a 5, you'd need a Long Bomb pass and two of the following: TZ on the thrower, Very Sunny, Foul Appearance opponent in range.
My take ... if your High Elf wants to make a Long Bomb pass in Very Sunny conditions with one of my guys breathing down his neck ... yah, he sure as heck should fumble on a 1-5. Cheesy freaking Elfball punting plays.
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Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 10:09 AM
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Eh!
Leave it Galak, as you know I take those Elf comments very personnaly! 
Only joking  , but seriously, I can see you point now from reading the posts, I bow too your superior knowledge! |
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Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 10:28 AM
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Galak,
Where is you Avatar that you have in TBB? |
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Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 12:47 PM
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We are a bit weird on this one.  If you are passing to a player you fumble on a modified 1 but only tackle zones mods are applied. If you passing to just a square the range mods are also applied. This cuts down on the punts but doesn't give you those big fumble chances on a normal pass. It's been working for us for 2 or 3 seasons. |
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Posted: Apr 02, 2003 - 03:48 PM
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| I like that Martin, its kind of the best from both worlds! |
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Posted: Nov 03, 2003 - 02:45 PM
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I think it has been said before. Without the adjusted-1 rule for fumbling, I'd punt a lot more (throw a long bomb to an empty square for the sake of moving the ball really far away from the opposing TD Zone).
The only caveat I have is that an AG6 passer can throw a ball that should be accurate, but fumbles because of the adjusted-1 rule. I think the adjusted-1 rule should read "if the pass was not accurate, and the roll is adjusted-1" to take this into account. |
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Posted: Nov 03, 2003 - 03:19 PM
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Posted: Nov 04, 2003 - 01:21 AM
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Used to play with fumbles on natural ones only. Recently switched to adding tackle zone modifiers, but not range modifiers.
I've always found the official rule extremely dumb, as it means that some players can never throw an inaccurate pass and always fumble if they miss! Doesn't make any sense at all. |
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Posted: Nov 05, 2003 - 05:17 AM
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GalakStarscraper wrote: it also creates a vast number of cheesy/beardy Punting plays
Which have never existed anywhere else except in the vivid imaginations of those who oppose the 'natural 1's rule. The cheesiness of throwing inaccurate long bombs is simply lost on me, and the extent of their use in leagues with no range modifiers has always been very small. |
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