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Post subject: Teams that are better without the Cage  PostPosted: Nov 10, 2006 - 01:57 PM



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Just out of curiosity are there any teams which benefit from not using the cage. Wood Elves seem a good one. Give the wardancer the ball and use the rest of the team to hunt the opposing team and hopefully force casualties.
 
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Skaven and most of the other AgFrag teams (agile but fragile) are better without a cage.

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Humans should not run the cage against dwarves. My dwarves got to teach this lesson to one of my leagues human coaches.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 13, 2006 - 09:59 AM



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I have Skaven opponents who taught me not to cage against them. Mainly because they snuck into the cage and blitzed the ball carrier with a rat ogre!!

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      Buggrit wrote:
Mainly because they snuck into the cage and blitzed the ball carrier with a rat ogre!!


Yeah, those rat ogres are so sneaky!

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If your opponent is tougher/stronger than you then don't cage!

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Or if they have stand firm, that will hault your cage

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      juggler434 wrote:
Or if they have stand firm, that will hault your cage


Not if the opposition has juggernaut now! Mind you there is always just knocking him down!

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I forgot about juggernaut.

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Halfling Cages are where it's at! Smile

Got them surrounded?

::squirm:: ::squeeze:: ::squish::

The cage is reformed behind your defenders. Smile


Sure this is shaky logic requiring lots of rolls and poor defense...but hey it is possible! Smile

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every team can and should cage, depending on the circumstances. My skaven caged vs humans this weekend at EB.
Same goes for stalling, my skaven stalled vs undead for 8 turns at EB.
 
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let's face it, the cage is possibly the most used and easiest protective strategy. Almost any team can use it effectively in the right situations. The strategy seems to favour the slow, tough teams (Dwarfs) over the fast, agile teams. Karl did bring up the point that even the patheticly weak can get some bennefit from the cage. Even if it slows the opponent down just a little bit.

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I think we all need to be careful. Forming cages as one off protection for the ball carrier is one thing - and every team uses that tactic at some point.

"Caging" I tend to mean the 7 or 8 turn grind down the pitch. That strategy doesn't work for teams where the opponent is better at bash than you are.

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I think that elf teams are hurt by using the cage. In my opinion, you want to spread out your opponent, giving you the opportunity to dodge, handoff, and pass your way into the endzone.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Nov 16, 2006 - 08:39 PM



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I have to agree with that. I run DE and I haven't used the cage in a match. I am still new so that may be the reason. My general tactic is isolate and decimate. It works well with 3-4 blitzers and line elves who have a good chance to dodge away from tackle zones.
 
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