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 Posted: Feb 21, 2007 - 02:20 PM
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I'm adding my opinion to the "prizes are not cash" argument.
I'm not going to win a tourney. Ever. I'm not as good as half the people I play, that's why I'm happilly mid-table. But when I set up for the first kick of game one I want to have fun, with players who came to enjoy the event. A hobby prize encourages the hobby, cash encourages a cold ruthless attitude to many things. That has no place at a tourney.
To be honest I wouldn't even consider going to a tourney with a cash prize unless every player committed themselves, before the event, to donating any prize to charity. And that would defeat the object of such an event, the admission cost is the key there. |
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Posted: Mar 01, 2007 - 09:50 AM
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I'd rather there wasn't any prizes at all and the costs were kept down.
much rather than than winning some tat I don't want, or something of no use to me which I then have to put the effort in to selling on ebay or whatever
the new naf winners trophy is fine as the only prize imho
the poll options are useless and don't cover the bases, if you are having prizes I can't see an issue with giving cash
if my entry cost is going towards paying for those prizes i'd rather win something I wanted
assuming the prize was something I wanted, chances are I have already bought it anyway
so i'm not voting! |
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Posted: Nov 18, 2007 - 08:35 PM
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first of all There is no such thing as cheating in bloodbowl. Illegal procedures or actions yes, cheating no
someone misrepresents a skill, Illegal procedure
someone misrepresents a stat, illegal procedure
someone moves extra squares make him roll go for its
someone picks up the dice real quick and says he rolled the needed 6, reroll it I did not see it
The concept of CASH as prizes changes the attitude of the player and drives them away from the spirit of NAF
there is one thing about flavor of tournaments
CASH is not a flavor it is an attitude |
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Posted: Nov 19, 2007 - 01:06 AM
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The only thing that is Illegal procedure is failing to move your turn marker and anything else is house rules.
In fact there is coincidental support for this position in the FAQ:
Q: Is it an illegal procedure should you forget to roll for Blood Lust, Bonehead, Wild Animal, Take Root or Really Stupid before you move the
player?
A: No, hopefully your opponent will remind you if you keep forgetting!
The only areas I've ever thought IP should be extended is to handle things like people setting up illegally (too many/too few or wrong positions). Even that is kludge to help out once the game has commenced rather than as the actual punishment. Set up 16 players on turn 1? That's worth an IP against a lot of teams! |
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Posted: Nov 19, 2007 - 03:28 AM
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daloonieshaman wrote: someone moves extra squares make him roll go for its
Wow! So my norse lineman moves 6, makes 2 GFIs then I decide to move a futher 2 or 3 squares - and your response is that I'm not cheating and I just need to make GFIs?
Makes One Turn Scores so much easier! |
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Posted: Nov 19, 2007 - 06:31 AM
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daloonieshaman wrote: first of all There is no such thing as cheating in bloodbowl. Illegal procedures or actions yes, cheating no
Too broad of a comment. Of course people cheat. If someone is willfully doing something that is wrong, then it is cheating. |
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Posted: Nov 25, 2007 - 11:52 PM
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Too broad of a comment. Of course people cheat. If someone is willfully doing something that is wrong, then it is cheating.
Only if you get caught! lol |
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 - 05:47 PM
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Yo; i agree cash prizes would increase hostility- playing for more than glory then, and we'd get some serious rules lawyering!
However, as a SUPRIZE Prize, i think it'd be amazing, or just in a pools style manner amongs friends it's fine.
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Posted: Nov 27, 2007 - 10:25 PM
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daloonieshaman wrote: Only if you get caught! lol
You'd still be a worthless no good scum though  Just no one would know it...  |
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Posted: Jan 05, 2008 - 05:13 PM
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Just seeing this thread...and it is too late to vote, but I am adding my 1Cent. (Thanks Spazz for letting me keep the other penny...though I'm probably still being overcharged based on the value of the thought.)
But I digress...
I do not think that Cash Prizes should be allowed at NAF sanctioned events.
First, for precedent. NAF sanctioning is not given for invitational tournements. I'm not saying if I agree or disdagree with this stance...just that it sets the precedent that not all tournies do/should/will get the NAF stamp of approval. (I believe that there is also a tourney that encourages heavy drinking during the event...if I remember correctly...there was some discussion if this would continue to get NAF Sanctioning because of reports of incidents at this event.)
Secondly, the fun factor of the tourney would be removed entirely. There would be a whole new batch of attendees who would go just for the cash and be relentless of their pursuit of it. Power Gaming, rules lawyering, and outright cheating. For coaches that go just to have fun, and where winning is secondary, their games against these new coaches would quickly turn ugly. This would filter out some of the people who go strictly for fun when one of the "Hard Core" coaches ram it down their throats. It could also stifle the future growth of the scene if younger players are trounced unmercifully in the name of milking every bonus point.
Anyway...ramble over.
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Posted: Jan 09, 2008 - 12:49 PM
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You are not too late at all. This thread remains live because new coaches are joining all the time and they bring with them new thoughts and ideas.
We still want to know what you, the coaches, think about this subject. |
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Posted: Jul 01, 2008 - 06:22 AM
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NO CASH PRIZES!
simple because i want to play for fun and to meet others friends.
play for money it's equal to reduce BB similar to magic TCG...and saw people rawing in a rumble it's inacceptable!
BB still have the right competition rate.
not more ...not minus |
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Posted: Jul 05, 2008 - 02:27 AM
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| I am one for no cash prizes.In my opinion winning one of the NAF trophies is much more satisfying and is something you will keep for a memory instead of something I'll use to get a hangover. |
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Posted: Dec 01, 2011 - 06:04 AM
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Personally the reason the BB scene is successful is because im not there  , but its the fact we dont play for reward, we play because we enjoy it, thats the core to the community we have.
Prizes are nice but make it stuff which isnt expensive, a model or a team at most.
The thing i enjoy the most is the banter which people i wouldnt normally see or be able to talk to, and ofc beating hangus and watching his tears |
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Posted: Dec 02, 2011 - 08:31 AM
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| @Darkson - can you beat this for threadromancy? |
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