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Post subject: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
 Posted: Jan 01, 2009 - 11:48 AM
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Hey guys!
Since teams with regenrating players that have acces to an apo can use it on them, what's the sequence?
Let's say a vampire gets killed, does the coach wait for the regen roll before using apo or does he have to decide right after injury (like he would have to do on any other "regular" player) to use it or not, and then gets a second chance with the regen roll?
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Post subject: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 01, 2009 - 12:24 PM
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Off the top of my head, and without consulting the rulebook, I believe you have to decide to use the Apothecary as soon as the injury occurs, i.e. before using Regen.
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Post subject: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 01, 2009 - 01:03 PM
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SBG, I've checked the rulebook, it says (Apothecary, p.17 in LRB6):
"...immediately after the player suffers the Casualty, you can use the Apothecary..."
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Post subject: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 01, 2009 - 02:02 PM
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Post subject: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 01, 2009 - 03:24 PM
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| Sorry guys. It's the kind of things you don't see anymore since it's been in the book forever... I guess. Should have read more carefully. |
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Post subject: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 01, 2009 - 04:17 PM
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Post subject: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 02, 2009 - 03:57 PM
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| IIRC that line got added in LRB5 so its not been there that long. |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 06, 2009 - 12:14 PM
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Doubleskulls wrote: IIRC that line got added in LRB5 so its not been there that long. Yes was added in LRB 5.0 as the Apothecary was added to the Vampire team to help it out and because how the Apothecary worked was changed.
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 09, 2009 - 04:21 AM
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| I thought that the Apoth on the VC team was just for the thralls. Am I remembering that wrong? |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 09, 2009 - 05:08 PM
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| IIRC that used to be the case, but is no longer so. However you have to use the apoth prior to the regen roll. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Jan 11, 2009 - 06:25 PM
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| Ian has it. In 4.0 Vampires could not use Apothecary. 5.0 changed that. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Nov 15, 2012 - 09:57 AM
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I was just reading the Apothecary rules. Please correct me if I am wrong. It says: During a match, an Apothecary may attempt to cure a player who has suffered a Casualty or been KO'd. An Apothecary can be used only once per match. If the player was KO'd leave him on the pitch Stunned, or if he was not on the pitch, put him in the Reserve box. Otherwise immediately after the player suffers the Casualty,.....
Now that tells me you can use the Apothecary on KO'd players later on in the game if you want. Now true it does say if a player receives a Casualty a player must immediately after use the Apothecary if they want to use the Apothecary. But it does not say that about the KO'd player. So in other words when I am trying to get a KO'd player back after a drive and I fail. I can just at that time go ahead and use the Apothecary and put him in the Reserve box.
In the same way on Regeneration. A player could wait until he sets up for the next drive to roll the Regen.
The rule states.
If the player suffers a Casualty result on the Injury table, then roll a D6 for Regeneration after the roll on the Casualty table and after any Apothecary roll, if allowed.
It does not say Immediately as the Apothecary rule does. It also does not say before you do any thing else. So you could wait until you say set up for the next drive to roll for the player in the Red box to transfer to the Reserve box if you are successful. Now true you can only do it once for each time a player suffered a Casualty but that does comply with the wording of the rules. |
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Nov 15, 2012 - 11:20 AM
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I See your Point for the ko, and although it is not 100% bullet proof stated for rule twisters in the rules ( at least for my interpreting) it is surely meant that way (for my interpreting)
So in the tourneys I participated me, my opponents and the orga agreed that also for ko you have to decide right there and not later in the ko box.
Though for the regen roll, well it is a don't care right? No impact when you do the roll? Or am I missing something? |
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Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Apothecary then Regeneration: possible?
Posted: Nov 15, 2012 - 12:25 PM
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Oventa wrote: I See your Point for the ko, and although it is not 100% bullet proof stated for rule twisters in the rules ( at least for my interpreting) it is surely meant that way (for my interpreting)
So in the tourneys I participated me, my opponents and the orga agreed that also for ko you have to decide right there and not later in the ko box.
Though for the regen roll, well it is a don't care right? No impact when you do the roll? Or am I missing something?
1. I am not twisting the rules. I am simply interpreting them exactly as written.
2. No, you are correct no impact when you do the roll. |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2012 - 03:08 PM
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| I would have assumed that the "if he was not on the pitch" refers to KOs caused by crowd pushes. |
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