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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 17, 2011 - 05:45 AM



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      Lucy wrote:
Hi Glowworm.

I must admitt that both are not really wheelchair friendly, but if you could remind us on time- shortly before the tourney or at worst during- we can make sure that all your matches are played at ground floor.

Lucy


No problems, its Canteloup that in the wheelchair, as im sure many UK players will know as he attends tournaments here, usually we put him at a table and his opponents come to him, its much easier that way!!
 
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      Darkson wrote:
I have to disagree - it's good news that more room has been found, but having a 2nd venue that far away from the main venue (especially for so few) is a bad thing. I thought the one thing learnt from the 1st WC was that it was a much better idea to have everyone in one place - really bad for the social side as well.


maybe to have two venues is not the perfect solution.... but if in this way everyone who wants can play the tournament, i preffer it so much over to have only one venue but with people out of the event!!

so, IMO, great news!!! good job, guys!!
 
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Unfortunatly due to some unforseen circumstances Lowsman2 has had todrop out of the Carrot Crunch Allstars please add ronnie (currently registered as a single) in his place

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so who sits at the "kiddy table", the top 4 teams should. It would add injury to insult to have the bottom 4 do it. (Make the "french" sit at the "kiddy table" I don't like "french" anyway)

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Exactly - teams that spent most (all!) of their time in the "other" venue during WC1 seemed a bit left out on the social side at times (I spent most of the time reffing there). There was a round of applause for Team USA when they managed to leave the White Hart for round 9 (the only time iirc).

And just for 24? Maybe for 100+ I could understand, but 24 players (4 teams) seems a bit daft.

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And 15 mins away - measured by what means of transport?

Walking? What if it's raining?

As I said earlier, people moaned about the 5 minute walk between the White Hart and GW at the last WC, especially if they/their team yo-yoed between venues.

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      Dani112233 wrote:

maybe to have two venues is not the perfect solution.... but if in this way everyone who wants can play the tournament, i preffer it so much over to have only one venue but with people out of the event!!

so, IMO, great news!!! good job, guys!!


I totally agree with you and, so, disagree with Darkson. In french, we say : "entre deux maux il faut savoir choisir le moindre". Well, -between two mals you have to chose the least- or something like that. Wink

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I share Darkson's opinion. A 2nd venue for 24 people is something "uncomfortable". A 15 min walk also looks like some bigger breaks between the rounds as the participants are in rush to change between the venue if they had to. And in some discomfort they have to change for the next round again if they win/loose the following roud.
This can end in some exercise Wink

(I also thought that one of the main point to select the venue out of the 3 options was to host the WC II at one location due the experiences from WC I...)

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You both are in teams which yet know they will attend the WC. What would you think if you were waiting for the 2nd draw ?

4 teams more is something important. We will know exactly what it means in a few weeks but at the moment it seems it can divide by two the number of refused coachs.

(and to be clear, I really understand what you mean, it would be better for coachs and more simple for organizers with everybody in the same place... but, well, there's no ideal solution now, only a choice to be done)

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I'd feel exactly the same - I had to deal with the dual location at WC1, and don't want to have to deal with it again (and with me in the team, we could be spending a lot of time ear the bottom Embarassed ).

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World Cup is only once every four years. In theory, I have no problems with that. But if I miss this one, I will have waited 8 years between WC I and WC III... At the moment, 2nd draw haven't been made and I could have the chance to attend even without the 4 more teams slots in the bar but I clearly prefer to have twice more chances to come even if I will sometimes walk and/or wait a bit more.

Come'on Darkson, only 4 teams on 78 will be in the bar, you shouldn't play your 9 games in ! Wink


(and, seeing your signature, if you want to be Louis X butcher, you should accept to give him also twice more chances to attend!)

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Only 4 teams is worse than what we had in WC1 - if we have to have split locations, at least get a decent amount.

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Come'on Darkson, only 4 teams on 78 will be in the bar, you shouldn't play your 9 games in ! Wink

Just games #2 and #3 (singles), then 5-9 (once I drag the team down). Wink

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      Darkson wrote:
I'd feel exactly the same - I had to deal with the dual location at WC1, and don't want to have to deal with it again (and with me in the team, we could be spending a lot of time ear the bottom Embarassed ).


do you preffer 24 coaches less in the tournament, then?? i understand that the second venue it's unconfortable, but it allows more people playing the WC. i really don´t want that some of my friends have to miss the event...
 
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      Dani112233 wrote:
do you preffer 24 coaches less in the tournament, then?? i understand that the second venue it's unconfortable, but it allows more people playing the WC. i really don´t want that some of my friends have to miss the event...

Yes. I thought one of the criteria for having WCII was to avoid the dual-location scenarion that WC1 had.

But...

If there has to be 2 locations, make it worthwhile (10+ teams). 24 is pathetic (sorry, but it is), and teams there are going to be feeling left out, especially if they spend a lot of time there.

It's also a pain in terms of results, as the results will need to be shuttled back and forth. Don't just think about the teams moving (the "extra 1/2 hour between rounds" argument used above), the teams can't move until they know where they're going, and they won't know that until the results have been transported, entered and the next round sorted.

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      daloonieshaman wrote:
so who sits at the "kiddy table", the top 4 teams should. It would add injury to insult to have the bottom 4 do it. (Make the "french" sit at the "kiddy table" I don't like "french" anyway)


Actually that would be fair (cause last time it was the opposite).

And that's totally in the spirit of WC: for fun ! If you dont want to be isolated, dont win Very Happy

And like that, everybody will have the pleasure of hearing DarkOrk (Tom - USA, wont be in the first 4 table Very Happy) swearing, which is a privilege !
 
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