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Posted: Jan 16, 2011 - 12:26 PM
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You can have diorama prizes etc set up in a display so everyone can look at them. Then have a public vote on the best ones.
For teams and mini's people are playing with then you need something else. One thing I've done in the past is to have painting scored by every opponent. Then you work out the difference between the score given and the average that player gives, and that is the painting score for the round. So for example Adam scores Carl, Dave and Ed 5,6,7. Carl gets -1, Dave 0, and Ed +1. Bob scores them 10,10,10 and the all get zero. I use the same technique for sportsmanship (BTW thanks to Bevan and Babs for introducing me to it).
The team with the highest differential generally is very good. Sometimes I'll just use this to determine the winner, in other instances use it to qualify for expert review. So for example the top 10 teams might make the short list, then the judges pick the 1,2 & 3. |
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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 - 12:37 AM
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Doubleskulls wrote: You can have diorama prizes etc set up in a display so everyone can look at them. Then have a public vote on the best ones.
The problem with a public system is that it can be some political votes, even if some teams are far better looking you will tend to vote for your friends, so the winner may be the one with the most friends voting instead of the one with the better team. That's why i would prefer an expert review at some point in the process. That's how historical painting contests work. |
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Posted: Jan 17, 2011 - 06:31 AM
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Having helped run the painting comp at the GT, I have to agree with Elyoukey - the number of times I saw people (as a group) just hand their voting slips in with the team number pre-filled (direct from the lunch hall), then go and look at the rest of the teams... |
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Posted: Jan 18, 2011 - 04:42 AM
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You can even have two prizes...
The public prize
The jury prize |
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Posted: Feb 11, 2011 - 08:45 AM
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Maybe there's a quicker easier solution:
After every match, teamcaptains (together with their team) award two teams from their opponents who get 1 and 3 points. These options will be entered on the match sheet.
After 6 rounds we'll determine who the X teams were with the most points. From these X a panel will determine the winner(s).
Easy, not time consuming and as honest as all other options.
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Posted: Feb 11, 2011 - 01:50 PM
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That could still possibly mean 80 teams for the judging panel, if each team has 1 good team and one above-average team. |
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Posted: Feb 11, 2011 - 06:05 PM
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True, but I doubt they each have this.
Some might have a few good ones and others none.
So, I think this will bring it down to 10-20.....
A panel should be able to handle that.
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Posted: Feb 12, 2011 - 06:02 AM
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Lucy wrote: After every match, teamcaptains (together with their team) award two teams from their opponents who get 1 and 3 points. These options will be entered on the match sheet.
After 6 rounds we'll determine who the X teams were with the most points. From these X a panel will determine the winner(s).
Many Spanish coaches don't post here because language barriers. That's why I've translated this proposal at the Spanish site and I'm waiting to gather the general opinion there and let you know. Personally, I like the idea |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2011 - 10:57 AM
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Lucy wrote: True, but I doubt they each have this.
Wait, are you suggesting only awarding the 3 and 1 pt if the opposing team has decent teams? Because your original wording makes it sound like you give 3 and 1 every round (1-6). |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2011 - 05:54 PM
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No, I mean every (6) rounds 3 and 1 points.
But, I doubt every team will have an obvious 1st and 2nd best.
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Posted: Feb 14, 2011 - 01:32 AM
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This sounds good,
but if i do understand correctly, if i paint a team, and my teammate also have a cool team, we will be in direct competition because we will share the 3 and 1 points (for an average 12 points each) , while if in another team, there is only 1 good painter he will have all the 3 points each round (for a 18 points total) , even if he has a team that has a lower quality.
Depending on the selection limit points, this may be an issue. |
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Posted: Feb 14, 2011 - 09:30 AM
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True.
Just a thought. Maybe each team can show 2 teams to their opponents and they award 1-5 points to these two teams.
Now if a team has 3 or more teams eligible for the painting contest, then they just have to make a preselection by themselves.
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Posted: Feb 14, 2011 - 10:01 AM
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yes, this could work.
This means that both paintedteams can have the same points.
Considering the schedule, and because it is a team decision, you will have to allow a bit more time to the rounds, so all the team can judge the paintedteams.
And doing it before playing the match would be better because at the end of the game, you will have to wait for/regather all the spreaded teammates |
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Posted: Feb 14, 2011 - 10:19 AM
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How about each team can only nominate 1 of the coaches to represent the "Best Team" award with his/her team. |
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Posted: Aug 01, 2011 - 03:35 AM
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