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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 19, 2011 - 12:24 AM



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      lunchmoney wrote:
Can I ask a question here regarding the rules? If not, please move the post to the correct thread.

Why no inducements? The Halfings rely on the Chef, the Goblins need those bribes. Is this an attempt to reduce the number of low tier teams coming?

They do not want Gobbos/Halflings to play
Total load of bull to eliminate 2 teams from the event

Crap about making it easier having 400+ rosters to check.
40 people 10 rosters each what about 20 minutes
even easier
before game one the opposing team captain checks the rosters 10-15minutes no admin work.

Think outside the beer glass people
 
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      daloonieshaman wrote:

Crap about making it easier having 400+ rosters to check.
40 people 10 rosters each what about 20 minutes
even easier
before game one the opposing team captain checks the rosters 10-15minutes no admin work.

Think outside the beer glass people

on the 400+ coaches, not all will be able to check correctly the opponent roster. i know for sure that there could/will be mistakes. I would not trust myself in a 10 minutes check on 6 rosters i don't play. Especially if there are some extrarules for masterchief for exemple. I really do think that the rosters should be checked before the event with an automatic script otherwise there will be mistakes and if the mistakes happens in some important rosters (in the finalist ogre roster for exemple) it would discredit all the event.

but according to Thadrin, there will be something.
 
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@daloonieshaman there is no need to be rude and post accusations

you can make criticisms while being constructive

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+1 for Chef/Bribes being allowed for Flings/Gobbos - if someone wants to bring them to the BB Party, don't handicap them even more.


Tbh, I can't remember who checked the 300 rosters for the WCI - didn't a lot of them get done at the pre-reg on the Thursday at the White Hart?

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I doubt we're going to check 400+ teamrosters.
The best way is to let the opposing coaches check them during the first game (maybe first game every day).
And then the refs can check them during the day.

Maybe we can have them send befor the tourney.............

About the halflings/gobbos (which we don't hate as I read online Razz ).

We just wanted to use the rules as were used last time, so we wouldn't get into an argument or would be accused of backtracking.
Again it has failed miserably Rolling Eyes

We're discussing it.

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      Lucy wrote:
I doubt we're going to check 400+ teamrosters.
The best way is to let the opposing coaches check them during the first game (maybe first game every day).
And then the refs can check them during the day.

Lucy


I think that's very appropriate. It's only in the coaches best interest to make sure his opponents roster is legal. If you don't catch it, it's your fault for not catching it.
 
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Doesn't Nuffle take care of illegal rosters in his own way

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      Grumbledook wrote:
@daloonieshaman there is no need to be rude and post accusations

you can make criticisms while being constructive

Smile We would like to bring attention to the oversigth of the rules eliminating the play of 2 teams, Goblins/Halfings Smile
 
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well you could also argue that the rules favour certain other teams by dripping the skills in through out the tournament rather than loading them all up before the first game as well

some may moan that using the same roster for 9 matches would be boring (though I personally don't think getting a couple of extra skills each day changes that much)

can I put forward that you get 4 skills day 1, 2 on day 2 and one on day 3, keeping the option for a double skill on days 2 and 3 if wanted (I'm all for all skills for every match though)

I know some coaches don't like the idea of giving the weaker low TV tournament teams some more skills over the usually good performing teams, but the more skills you can start with the more even it gives at least some other teams

teams that don't start with much block, dodge, tackle, sure hands etc tend to suffer and as a result get taken a lot less often, inducements don't usually offer them much in the way of help and the stunty teams are more popularised due to their perceived "fun" aspect and awards for best stunty team

i.e. : Chaos, Pact, Nurgle, Vamps, High Elves, Pro Elves, Slann

I'll bet money right now that Woodies, Undead and Orc will be the top three selected races there ;]

just putting the idea out there...

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Jon,
don't forget Zons

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Not every tourney accepts chef and bribes (pearly kings and queens comes to mine) and flings/gobbo's still get taken

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sure, though just under 25% of the teams were Orcs last year

there was one goblin team (do they commonly take bribes? I didn't think they did) and no halfling teams

rules can heavily dictate favouritism towards certain races, I'd like to think we can encourage diveristy

I'm sure no one wants to play against the same race 5 times out of 9 for example

@daloonieshaman, I could only pick three for my top three ;]

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      Grumbledook wrote:

can I put forward that you get 4 skills day 1, 2 on day 2 and one on day 3, keeping the option for a double skill on days 2 and 3 if wanted (I'm all for all skills for every match though)

      Dave wrote:

Before round 1 you may assign three skills to three separate players on your roster. Before round 4 and round 7 you may assign two skills to two separate players on your roster. No player can get more than one extra skill during the tournament.


Just to avoid confusion Cool
 
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Illegal Procedure is not in effect. I suppose the 4 minute rule is also not in effect? I think so but should be clearly stated.
 
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Agree with suggestions about reconsidreing Halflings Chef and Goblins Bribes stuff.

I play goblins a lot. And I think they need it. Although I played different types of tourneys, those kind of rules are going to make goblins and halflings coaches to reconsider it.

NAF WC I wasn't full of those teams as well. Maybe due to that Wink
 
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